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Amicus | When Unaccountable People Come for Your Vote

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 26 July 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Civil rights are under attack. The Supreme Court seems to have its sights set on the Voting Rights Act. The Trump administration, meanwhile, is taking every issue to the court knowing that it will never have to face accountability there. And with states like Texas considering unpopular redistricting plans, the administration may never face it at the ballot box either. Put more bluntly, many of our elected officials are operating with a perceived immunity from accountability of any sort. This week Dahlia spoke about the deleterious effects of these actions on voting rights with Maya Wiley, president and CEO of The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights. They discuss the damage done to our civil rights by the current Department of Justice, and what we can learn about accountability from recent developments in the Jeffrey Epstein scandal.  Want more Amicus? Join Slate Plus to unlock weekly bonus episodes with exclusive legal analysis. Plus, you’ll access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the Amicus show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/amicusplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Dahlia Lithwick, and this is Amicus, Slate's podcast about the courts, the law, and the Supreme Court.

0:14.9

All of this is about power. All of it is about the protection of power but for a single person.

0:21.6

And that is the person that is Donald Trump.

0:32.1

It is really hard to look at the ways in which President Donald Trump, his administration, and his Republican Party are willing to break rules, norms, institutions, and break the law without concluding they actually have zero fear that someday Democrats will wield all those powers against them.

0:54.0

Put more bluntly, they are not behaving like people who believe they will ever face

0:59.9

accountability at the ballot box.

1:02.7

A perceived immunity from accountability of any sort ever is finding expression in so many

1:09.6

of the destructive acts of this second Trump administration.

1:13.9

Last week, we focused on the immigration piece of that rampage.

1:18.1

This week, we wanted to turn our attention to civil rights.

1:22.4

Now, we have talked separately about the evisceration of the Civil Rights Division at the Justice Department,

1:28.2

the weaponization of civil rights protections against diversity in higher education and

1:33.1

Skodas's delivery of death by a thousand cuts to the Voting Rights Act.

1:38.0

But we wanted to take a step back and try to knit all of this together in a way that

1:43.8

educates and empowers us to think

1:46.7

about it as a unified whole. Maya is the president and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil

1:53.3

and Human Rights, a coalition of more than 240 national organizations fighting to protect,

1:59.3

defend, and expand the rights of every person in the

2:02.7

United States. A nationally respected civil rights attorney, Wiley has been a litigator at the ACLU,

2:09.8

the NAACP Legal Defense Fund. She has also worked in the civil division of the U.S.

2:15.1

Attorney for the Southern District of New York. I know her as a fellow MSNBC news analyst, and her memoir, Remember You Are a Wiley, was published just last fall.

2:26.6

Maya, welcome to Amicus.

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