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🗓️ 18 March 2025
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0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Dahlia Lithwick. Welcome back to Amicus. This is Slate's podcast about the courts, |
0:11.5 | the law, and the U.S. Supreme Court. It is Tuesday, March 18th on the fourth day of a, I think, |
0:19.2 | genuine constitutional crisis that began to unfold midair on Saturday night when Judge James Bosberg on the federal district court in D.C. |
0:29.7 | ordered the Trump administration to turn around deportation flights to El Salvador, carrying Venezuelan migrants. |
0:37.4 | And the administration actively refused to |
0:41.0 | comply in open defiance of a court order. By Tuesday morning, the president was calling for Judge |
0:47.6 | Bosberg to be impeached. Chief Justice Roberts responded around noon on Tuesday, writing, quote, |
0:55.7 | For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate |
1:01.5 | response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision. |
1:06.0 | The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose, end quote. |
1:12.8 | So we are coming to you with this extra episode of amicus, because while events are moving quickly, the courts are moving at well, |
1:17.9 | the speed of law, which means there's an awful lot to unpack, a timeline to try to pin down, |
1:24.0 | and some big questions that will not wait till Saturday in what definitely does not feel like, quote, the normal appellate review process. |
1:32.7 | The government had a deadline of noon today, Tuesday, to answer a whole bunch of questions from Judge Bowsberg, joining me now to figure out whether those questions were answered. |
1:43.3 | And what it all means is Slate, senior writer, Mark Joseph Stern, quarterback on team jurisprudence here at Slate. Hi, Mark. Hi, Dahlia. And happy constitutional crisis day to you. |
1:54.6 | Happy constitutional crisis week, possibly month, maybe a year. Let's see. Hey, I think we should start with just a timeline |
2:03.0 | because it's important to lay out the facts that prove, I think, fairly clearly that we are |
2:10.0 | now in the midst of a textbook constitutional crisis. Let's be clear maybe before we even do that, |
2:16.2 | the Justice Department's position continues to be that even parts of the timeline are classified. |
2:22.6 | On Saturday, it seems that the Trump administration began deporting Venezuelan migrants under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, accusing hundreds without showing any evidence of belonging to the Transdaeragua |
2:38.0 | gang. The ACLU promptly sued them in federal court at 6.48 p.m., still on Saturday, |
2:45.6 | federal district judge Bozberg held an emergency hearing at which he determined that the Trump administration could not go around using the Alien Enemies Act. |
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