Amicus: Lessons from The Trump Years for SCOTUS

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🗓️ 11 March 2023

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Dahlia Lithwick is joined by political analyst Michael Podhorzer (ex AFL-CIO, now newly-minted substacker). Michael was one of the all-hands-on-deck responsible for shoring up the 2020 election against subversion, he’s a political data geek, and for Amicus’s purposes - he’s someone with a fascinating take on the Supreme Court, and all the ways we fail to truly understand it. Hear why Michael doesn't care about Leonard Leo, the lessons learned in the Trump years that we should be applying to the court, and the overarching agenda that both motivates and shapes the court’s jurisprudence. In this week’s Amicus Plus segment, Mark Joseph Stern is away, so Dahlia is joined by the Award Winning™ Leah Litman to talk about loan forgiveness and major questions, the Texas suit being brought by women seriously harmed by the state's abortion ban, and the alarming implications of an amicus brief in an Indiana abortion case that questions the religious sincerity of, well, anyone who backs abortion rights. Sign up for Slate Plus now to listen and support our show. Dahlia’s book Lady Justice: Women, the Law and the Battle to Save America, is also available as an audiobook, and Amicus listeners can get a 25 percent discount by entering the code “AMICUS” at checkout. https://books.supportingcast.fm/lady-justice Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:51.0	Hi and welcome back to Amicus. This is Slate's podcast about the court and the law,
0:56.0	the rule of law, the Supreme Court. I'm Dalia Lithuick. I covered those and other things for Slate.
1:01.0	And since we last met, the justices have heard oral arguments in several cases,
1:07.0	including one testing whether President Biden's loan forgiveness was constitutional.
1:14.0	We previewed that case with Mark Stern in our Slate Plus segment last time,
1:19.0	and Slate Plus members are going to get to hear the post-argument gaming on it later on in this show.
1:26.0	We'll talk about that more in a minute.
1:28.0	For the main attraction this week, it's been a while since we've talked to someone on this show
1:33.0	who looks at the court through a really wide angle lens,
1:37.0	and who maybe looks at the court for the political beast that it is,
1:43.0	rather than the institution we might once have been able to suspend disbelief around
1:49.0	long enough to imagine that it is in fact not political.
1:53.0	So this week we are checking in with one of my personal favorite political analysts and thinkers, Michael Podharser.
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