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The LRB Podcast

Amia Srinivasan: What’s it like to be an octopus?

The LRB Podcast

London Review of Books

Society & Culture

4.4581 Ratings

🗓️ 30 August 2023

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

‘Octopuses,’ Amia Srinivasan writes, ‘are the closest we can come, on earth, to knowing what it might be like to encounter intelligent aliens.’ In our third summer reading, Srinivasan explores the paradoxical nature of octopus lives, and the difficulties humans have in understanding them. Read more by Amia Srinivasan in the LRB: lrb.me/srinivasanpod Let us know your thoughts: lrb.me/podsurvey Produced by Zoe Kilbourn; editing by Sarah Sahim Subscribe to Close Readings: In Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3pJoFPq In other podcast apps: lrb.me/closereadings Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is the London Review of Books podcast. Regular programming will resume next week. In the meantime,

0:05.5

for the third of our summer readings from the archive, we have Amir Srinivazan reading her piece on

0:09.9

Octopus Intelligence from 2017. The Sucker, the Sucker. Other Minds, the Octopus and the Evolution

0:19.2

of Intelligent Life by Peter Godfrey Smith,

0:23.1

and The Soul of an Octopus, a surprising exploration into the wonder of consciousness by Cy Montgomery.

0:31.1

In 1815, 15 years before he made his most famous print, The Great Wave,

0:37.6

Haukusai published three volumes of erotic art.

0:41.6

In one of them, there is a woodcut print known in English as

0:44.9

The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife, and in Japanese as Takotoama, Octopus and Shell Diver.

0:53.1

It depicts a naked woman lying on her back, leg spread, and eyes

0:57.4

closed, while a huge red octopus performs conalinguists on her. The octopus's slit eyes bulge

1:04.7

between the woman's legs and its suckered limbs wrap around her writhing body. A second, smaller octopus, inserts its beak into

1:13.6

the woman's mouth, while curling the thin tip of an arm around her left nipple. In Europe,

1:20.1

the print was interpreted as a scene of rape, but the critics didn't read Japanese. In the text

1:26.6

arranged in the space around the three entwined bodies,

1:30.6

the shell diver exclaims, You hateful octopus. You're sucking at the mouth of my womb makes me

1:38.0

gasp for breath. Ah, yes, it's there. With the sucker, the sucker, there, there. Until now, it was I that men called an

1:47.3

octopus. An octopus. How are you able? Oh, boundaries and borders gone. I'm vanished.

1:55.6

The octopus threatens boundaries. Its body, a boneless mass of soft tissue, has no fixed shape.

2:04.4

Even large octopuses, the largest species, the giant Pacific, has an arm span of more than six

2:09.5

meters and weighs 100 pounds, can fit through an opening an inch wide or about the size of its

2:15.9

eye. This, combined with their considerable strength,

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