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Americans Take Weight-Loss Drugs, Eat Salty Snacks

Motley Fool Money

The Motley Fool

Business, Investing

4.43K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Two things can be true. (00:14) Bill Barker and Ricky Mulvey discuss: - Legislation to ban DeepSeek on US government devices. - Hershey’s quarter, and what it reveals about American eating habits. - Eli Lilly’s blockbuster weight-loss drugs, and questions about its valuation. Then, (18:26) Ricky continues his conversation with writer Jordan Harper about the challenges of making TV and movies in the streaming era. Companies discussed: NVDA, HSY, LLY Host: Ricky Mulvey Guests: Bill Barker, Jordan Harper Producer: Mary Long Engineer: Rick Engdahl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Remember that deep seek crash? You're listening to Motley Fool Money.

0:13.6

I'm Ricky Mulvey, joined today by Bill Barker. Bill, good to see you. Thanks for being here.

0:17.8

Thanks for having me. So I want to get back to this deep seek story

0:21.6

because this $1 trillion market crash seems to be not really talked about anymore.

0:27.3

Fewer than two weeks ago, the market panicked when this large language model that was released

0:31.8

by a Chinese hedge fund went into the open world. The company claimed that it has trained its model for less

0:38.7

than $6 million. And this revelation created basically a $1 trillion market wipeout,

0:45.4

hitting companies like Taiwan Semiconductor and Nvidia. Now we're a little under two weeks away.

0:51.2

I think it's time to do a retrospective and look back on this. Bill, was this an

0:56.4

overreaction, an underreaction, or did we find the porridge just right on this reaction?

1:01.5

Well, I think it was a large reaction fueled by not enough information and too many people

1:10.4

trading as if they understood the story

1:13.2

in the moment, which was impossible given the parts of the story that were left out and the

1:19.7

inadequacy and unpreparedness for most people to take in the details of what is going on

1:27.0

in AI models.

1:28.5

I think that there are parts of the story which entirely deserved a large and significant

1:35.5

stock reaction and parts which did not, and were two weeks away, and those things have sorted

1:41.4

each other out far better than they did in the moment.

1:45.2

But I don't think that we're exactly finished with this story.

1:48.6

Yeah, I think one of my favorite reactions was from OpenAI, who was upset that possibly Deepseek used some of its technology to train its model.

1:57.0

And they didn't do it with Open AI's permission.

1:59.1

They were very upset about that.

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