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Hello and welcome to the Americano podcast, a series of discussions about American power, politics and society.

On each episode, I will talk to an American expert or an expert on America about something

that's going on in America in 2023. I am delighted to be joined here in London by a great

American filmmaker, Oliver Stone,

and a great Argentinian filmmaker Fernando Slicin.

And we're going to be talking about your new documentary, Nuclear Now,

which is a very forceful argument about the need for nuclear power as the answer to the climate crisis. And Oliver, I thought I'd start with you by saying,

you've said that your mind was turned on this subject by a book called A Bright Future.

Yeah. I had not been an activist in any way. It's not my nature. The 70s and the 80s,

I was trying to make a living

as a screenwriter. And I heard all the protests against nuclear and went along with it just,

you know, mildly not. And as the climate crisis, we didn't know about that at that time,

we didn't hear about climate change. And now we started to hear about it. And by the 2000s and so forth, Al Gore's book came along. Of course, we didn't hear about climate change and now we started to hear about it and by the 2000s

and so forth. Al Gore's book came along. Of course we'd been warned about it in 1980s by the scientists

but nobody paid. I didn't pay attention. The Al Gore's book, a movie, Inconvenient Truth,

was very convincing about renewables changing the way, getting the CO2 out of the air. That was the

issue. Very strong impact. And we did, we did. It changed the nature of the world. We had more

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