Welcome to another Conversation with Coleman! To date, we have given around 400 free subscriptions to those who have expressed financial challenges. With the growing impact of this podcast, I hope to continue providing free memberships to those with financial difficulties. To continue doing this, we have started a campaign to pay it forward. Help us grow the Conversations with Coleman community so we can continue providing free access to those who request it. Please consider paying it forward by making a donation via https://colemanhughes.org My guest today is Anthony Barksdale. Anthony was the Acting Commissioner of the Baltimore Police Department from 2007 to 2012, and has worked at various levels of policing as well as with the FBI. He's now also a commentator for CNN. Anthony and I discussed the national conversation on policing and racism. We talked about the shooting of Ma’Khia Bryant, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and how Martial Arts training could prevent the need for cops to use deadly force. The possibility of substituting cops with mental health professionals, the shooting of Rashard Brooks, and when it makes sense to let suspects flee a crime scene. The over-policing of low-level drug crime and prostitution, the Ferguson effect and the current mass retirement of police officers, the defund movement, qualified immunity, the psychological dynamic between an officer and a suspect during a routine traffic stop, and about how to get rid of bad cops. I admire Anthony so much, and I'm so glad that I'm able to bring him to an audience that may have not have heard of him before. You can see me express that admiration throughout the conversation. So I really hope that you guys find this one valuable. #Ad  Hiring is one of those things you don’t want to mess up. You can find the right people to help you complete your vision with Indeed. Indeed is the job site that makes hiring as easy as 1, 2, 3. Post, screen, and interview - all on Indeed. Get your quality shortlist of candidates whose resumes on Indeed match your job description faster, only pay for the candidates that meet must-have qualifications, and schedule and complete video interviews in your Indeed Dashboard. Get started RIGHT NOW with a free 75$ sponsored job credit to upgrade your job post at indeed.com/CONVERSATIONS The Offer is valid through JUNE 30th. Terms and conditions apply. #Ad  No matter where you're selling; Amazon, Etsy, or your own website, ShipStation funnels all of your orders into one simple interface that you can manage from anywhere, even your cell phone. You'll also get access to amazing discounts with major carriers including UPS, FedEx, and USPS that are normally reserved for Fortune 500 companies. Ship more in less time! Just use my offer code "Coleman" to get a 60-day free trial. Just go to shipstation.com, click on the microphone at the top of the page, and type in "Coleman" #ConversationswithColeman #ColemanHughes #AnthonyBarksdale #DeputyBarksdale #American #Policing #Crisis #CwC #Podcasts #ConversationPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices