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Truth with Vivek Ramaswamy

American Express Exposed: The Dark Side of Woke Policies

Truth with Vivek Ramaswamy

Vivek Ramaswamy

Business, News, Government

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2023

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

In this eye-opening episode of 'The Vivek Show,' host Vivek Ramaswamy is joined by guests Nick Williams and Kenny Xu, who reveal the unexpected alliance between corporate America and the woke movement. Nick shares his personal experience at American Express, where he was pushed out of the company due to controversial racial policies. Together, they explore how these practices are eroding the culture of merit and hard work in the United States. Additionally, Kenny Xu introduces his new book, "School of Woke: How Critical Race Theory Infiltrated Our Schools and Why We Need to Reclaim Them." -- Donate here: https://t.co/PE1rfuVBmb For more content follow me here: Twitter - @VivekGRamaswamy Instagram - @vivekgramaswamy Facebook - http://facebook.com/VivekGRamaswamy Truth Social - @VivekRamaswamy Rumble - @VivekRamaswamy -- Kenny Xu is a distinguished commentator on education, identity politics, and the ongoing battle against meritocracy in our culture. He is the author of two insightful books, An Inconvenient Minority and School of Woke, which delve into these critical issues. Kenny has contributed to notable publications such as The Wall Street Journal, Newsweek, and The Federalist. As the President of Color Us United, he actively works to create a more inclusive and equitable society. Kenny currently resides in North Carolina. Nick Williams is a former employee of American Express, where he worked for over eight years as an Iowa-based manager of business development. His unexpected termination in March 2021 sparked his determination to speak out against the company's controversial racial policies. Despite being offered a six-figure settlement, Nick refused to remain silent, opting instead to share his story and stand up against what he views as the detrimental effects of "woke corporate America." Nick's courage and conviction serve as a powerful example of taking a stand for what is right. -- Time-Codes: 00:21 - Vivek Ramaswamy discusses the mystery of the arranged marriage between corporate America and the woke movement. 01:18 - Introduction of guests Nick Williams and Kenny Xu, who have been fighting back against the trend in corporate America. 02:17 - Nick shares his personal experience at American Express and how he was pushed out of the company. 10:20 - Vivek Ramaswamy questions the motivations behind American Express's actions regarding race and relaxing standards for specific objectives. 11:09 - Kenny Xu reveals that American Express provided a 15% bonus for firing white males and hiring people of color, according to the company's documents. 12:07 - Kenny Xu suggests that American Express's decision to "go woke" might be an attempt to deflect attention from federal investigations and charges against the company. 20:13 - Vivek discusses the origins of the word merit and its connection to America, highlighting the importance of rewarding results and effort. 21:53 - Vivek asks Nick about his black colleague's reaction to the diversity policy and how it affected their working relationship. 23:34 - Nick emphasizes that merit and hard work should be the focus, not race, and that the culture at his company was destroyed due to these policies. 28:44 - The impact of college admissions on the Asian American community is discussed, particularly racial preferences and how they can be harmful. 31:00 - The conversation turns to how people are no longer being rewarded based on their merit, but rather on compliance with a particular system. 32:27 - The idea of taming the spirit of excellence in America based on race and assumptions is explored. 34:22 - The potential for creating a new social structure of racism through the current system is debated. 38:41 - Vivek Ramaswamy explains that civil rights statutes, as broadly construed by the EEOC, create the conditions for viewpoint discrimination. 39:58 - Vivek discusses the importance of treating these issues as American issues, not just left or right issues. 41:09 - Kenny Xu introduces his new book "School of Woke: How Critical Race Theory Infiltrated Our Schools and Why We Need to Reclaim Them." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

So we've traced the mystery of the origin of this bizarre arranged marriage between corporate America and a woke movement that you would think of as normally in tension with corporate America and its goals. But in the aftermath of the 2008

0:26.7

financial crisis, you had some strange things happen in this country and one of them was that

0:31.1

two strange bedfellows got in bed they each got something out of the trade and

0:36.2

even though they probably didn't really love each other they nonetheless

0:41.6

engaged in an act of mutual prostitution that gave rise to this new

0:45.6

woke industrial complex in America that is far more insidious than just big government alone through the front door engaging in a

0:54.8

trampling on individual rights in the 1980 version of the plot. There's something

0:59.6

altogether different going on today and I think that there's there's a little bit of a

1:04.4

mystery beneath it where if you scratch the surface it starts to make a little bit more

1:08.1

sense but on the face of it is I think the cultural mystery of our generation.

1:12.8

And so today we have two foot soldiers, I would say in the fight back

1:17.2

against that trend in corporate America who have been leaders in their own right,

1:21.6

who I've gotten to know in a pretty well over the

1:24.2

last year. Kenny Zoo who's author of his great book actually it's how I first got to

1:29.6

know Kenny an inconvenient minority who's with us today.

1:32.8

Someone who's got to know more recently, Nick Williams,

1:35.1

who's a friend of Kenny's as well,

1:36.4

who's actually worked at one of the companies

1:39.2

that Kenny has actually highlighted in his work.

1:42.1

And we'll get right into it guys in terms of we'll start

1:45.5

with your experience maybe with you Nick talking about what you faced at American Express

1:59.2

as a what you faced at American Express as an example of this broader trend of a politicization of corporate America that befuddles a lot of people, consumers, employees, etc, but now has become the new norm in America.

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