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DSR's Words Matter

American Democracy at a Point of No Return

DSR's Words Matter

Riley Fessler

News, Government

4.62.9K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2026

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Concerns about an impending government shutdown are growing, and it is critical that the Democratic Party can adopt strong messaging to voters. There is no oversight for the Republican cult in Washington - Bondi, Bovino, Blanche, the list is endless. If we can still save our democracy, we need to do so now. Tune in as David Rothkopf and Norm Ornstein discuss the looming government shutdown, the threats to voting rights, and the hideousness of Pam Bondi.   Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

9, 12, 10, 28, 2, 23.

0:17.2

This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third

0:24.2

sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C., and from other undisclosed locations

0:31.4

across America and around the world.

0:34.9

Hello, and welcome to DSR's Words Matter.

0:38.3

I'm David Rothkof and I'm joined this week as every week by the inimitable Norm Ornstein,

0:44.3

who is, I don't know, someplace warmer than this.

0:47.3

Where are you, Norm?

0:49.3

I am in Palm Springs, California.

0:53.3

And it's a little family gathering. It's not what you would expect from Palm Springs. It's in the 60s,

1:03.8

going down to the 40s at night, but compared to Washington, although Washington now is having a little bit of a flowering, right?

1:12.6

It's in the 40s there.

1:14.2

The last two days, today it's a little chilly, but yes, the last two days.

1:18.7

There will be less snow when you get back.

1:21.8

There's a lot for us to cover, so I'm just going to do this lightning round.

1:25.9

I'll throw out something you can respond to it. Then I'll move on to the next one. I was just talking to do this lightning round. I'll throw out something you can respond to it.

1:28.2

Then I'll move on to the next one.

1:29.7

I was just talking to some friends who were in the meeting of the Democratic caucus today

1:35.5

as they were talking about the prospects for government shutdown.

1:40.1

They came out and they said a couple of interesting things.

1:43.2

One was they think there will be a shutdown. One was they think there will be a shutdown.

1:46.2

Two is they think there will be a shutdown

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