You're Hello and welcome to SpyCast from the Secret Files of the International Spy Museum in

Washington, D.C. I'm Mark Stout, historian of the museum. I'm a PhD author and historian who served for 13 years as an analyst in the U.S. Intelligence community.

Every month, the museum brings you interesting talks with authors,

scholars, and practitioners who has something to do with the world of

intelligence and espionage.

We're fortunate to have with us here today Dr. John Earl Haynes. John is recently retired from the

Manuscript Division at the Library of Congress here in Washington where he was

known to many and he is one of the really very leading experts on American communism's connection

with Soviet espionage.

He's been a prolific scholar in this field.

We'll talk about a number of his books and much of his work has been

done in collaboration with Professor Harvey Claire of Emory University I should mention

unfortunately Professor Claire is not here today but welcome John Earl Haynes

welcome to the spy museum. Delightful, delighted to be here.

What was your original academic training in?

You did not start out as a scholar of espionage.

No, I moved to that area over a series of years.

Originally in graduate school at the University of Minnesota, my emphasis was on labor history, and I intended to become a specialist in labor history.

But as I was doing my dissertation, which initially started out as a look at the role of

AFL and CIO unions in Minnesota politics in the mid- 1940s.

I came across material that moved my interest in a somewhat different direction.

I found that with the merger in 1944 of the State's Democratic Party,

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