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American Chestnut, ‘Don’t Look Up’ Movie, Aurora Electrons. December 24, 2021, Part 1

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🗓️ 24 December 2021

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

The Resurrection Of The American Chestnut

At the turn of the 20th century, the American chestnut towered over other trees in forests along the eastern seaboard. These giants could grow up to 100 feet high and 13 feet wide. According to legend, a squirrel could scamper from New England to Georgia on the canopies of American chestnuts, never touching the ground.

Then the trees began to disappear, succumbing to a mysterious fungus. The fungus first appeared in New York City in 1904—and it spread quickly. By the 1950s, the fungus had wiped out billions of trees, effectively driving the American chestnut into extinction.

Now, some people are trying to resurrect the American chestnut—and soon. But not everyone thinks that’s a good idea. Reporter Shahla Farzan and “Science Diction” host and producer Johanna Mayer bring us the story of the death and life of the American chestnut.

’Don’t Look Up’ Asks If Satire Can Stir Us From Climate Apathy

What if scientists warned of a certain upcoming doomsday and no one took them seriously? That’s the plot of director Adam McKay’s latest dark comedy, Don’t Look Up. Two astronomers discover a comet that’s heading towards the Earth. The catch: There’s only six months and 14 days to avert a total annihilation of humanity.

The scientists, played by Leonardo DiCaprio and Jennifer Lawrence, embark on a media campaign to convince the world and the president, played by Meryl Streep, to take the threat seriously.

Joining Ira to talk about the parallels between this movie and real world crises like climate change and COVID-19 are Sonia Epstein, executive editor and associate curator of science and film at the Museum of the Moving Image in New York City, and Samantha Montano, assistant professor of emergency management at the Massachusetts Maritime Academy, based in Buzzards Bay, Massachusetts. Montano is also the author of Disasterology: Dispatches from the Frontline of the Climate Crisis.

Surfing Particles Can Supercharge Northern Lights

For thousands of years, humans have been observing and studying the Northern lights, aurora borealis, and their southern hemisphere counterpart, aurora australis. The simplest explanation for how these aurora form has been unchanged for decades: Charged particles, energized by the sun, bounce off the Earth’s protective magnetic field and create flashes of light in the process.

But for a long time, scientists have known it was more complicated than that. What exactly gives those incoming particles the energy they need to create the patterns we see? And why are some aurora more dramatic and distinct, while others are subtle and hazier?

Aurora researcher Jim Schroeder explains new work published in Nature Communications that suggests that in more vivid aurora, electrons may “surf” waves of energy from space into our atmosphere. The waves, called Alfvén waves, are a side effect of the solar wind warping the Earth’s magnetic field. Schroeder explains the weird physics of our aurora, and what we could learn about other objects in the universe as a result.

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0:00.0

This is Science Friday. I'm Ira Flato. Later in the hour, we'll talk about the surfing

0:05.0

electrons that contribute to dramatic Northern light displays. And a disaster scientist

0:11.2

takes on the new movie Don't Look Up. But first, if you've ever hiked around the forests

0:16.4

of the Eastern U.S., you might have noticed all the oaks and the pines and the maples. But

0:21.6

there's a key player that's missing. The American Chestnut. The American Chestnut towered

0:28.1

over these canopies a little over a century ago. One of these trees could grow over 100

0:34.2

feet tall and 12 feet wide and there were lots of them. So many people like to say a squirrel

0:41.8

could go from New England to Georgia, leaping chestnut to chestnut without ever touching

0:47.0

the ground. But then an invasive fungus wiped them out. Billions of trees gone in the

0:53.8

span of a single generation. Now decades later, people are trying to bring them back, using

0:59.7

science to resurrect these old giants. But not everyone's happy about it. Here with the

1:05.4

story, a reporter's sail of Farzan and science, Dixie, Johanna, Mayor, full disclosure, Johanna's

1:11.4

partners, Ante, works for the American Chestnut Foundation. They come up later in this story.

1:17.9

And with that, here's the tale of the vanishing chestnut trees.

1:22.8

Like when there were still American chestnuts. Every year, the trees produced baskets of rich

1:28.0

sweetnuts. Each one encased in a spiny jacket. You could eat them right off the tree or

1:34.0

grind them up into flour or even cook them into toasty little snacks. People just adore

1:40.2

these trees. I've heard people talk about it being, you know, the people's tree, our

1:44.4

tree. Susan Frankl is the author of American Chestnut, the life, death, and rebirth of a

1:50.2

perfect tree. She says for a lot of people, especially in Appalachia, this tree held a treasured

1:56.6

place in their lives. It really was like a member of the family. And when the trees started

2:02.6

to disappear, you know, people wept over them. People had pictures in the family scrapbooks

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