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The Political Orphanage

America's Two Angry Dads: Jefferson and Hamilton

The Political Orphanage

Andrew Heaton

Politics, Comedy, News

4.91000 Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2025

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton offered two contrasting visions of what America should be and how the Constitution applies to it. Jeffrey Rosen is a legal scholar and the President of the National Constitution Center. He's the author "The Pursuit of Liberty: How Hamilton vs. Jefferson Ignited the Lasting Battle over Power in America."

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the political orphanage, a home for deep thinkers and political mutants of all stripes.

0:16.6

I'm your host and fellow mutant, Andrew Heaton.

0:20.2

And there are two very tempting traps to fall into in modern politics.

0:25.2

Actually, there's more than that.

0:26.3

There's like 8,000 tempting traps you can fall into, just a billion sarlocks out there.

0:32.6

But I'm going to bring up two for our purposes today.

0:36.0

The first is to think that our current era is unique

0:41.2

in how toxic and partisan and hypocritical everything is. Now, don't get me wrong. Our era is lousy

0:48.3

with tribalism and hypocrisy. But it's not that America was just hunky-dory country club until 2008 and then it went

0:57.1

off the deep end. For example, quite early on, one time, our vice president shot the secretary

1:04.1

of the treasury in New Jersey. Also, I am to understand that we had a war one time against ourselves.

1:10.8

So the mud-slinging and the shameless adjut prop go way back.

1:14.4

It's not exactly constant throughout American history, but it's not new either at all.

1:20.7

Here's a clip from some of my friends over at Reason, compiling actual campaign literature

1:25.9

from the 1800 presidential election between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams in the style of modern political ad.

1:35.5

John Adams is a blind, bald, crippled, toothless man who wants to start a war with France.

1:42.3

While he's not busy importing mistresses from Europe,

1:45.4

he's trying to marry one of his sons to a daughter of King George.

1:49.9

Haven't we had enough monarchy in America?

1:53.6

I'm Thomas Jefferson, and I approve this message

1:56.1

because John Adams is a hideous, hermaphroditic character

1:59.5

with neither the force and firmness

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