Welcome to Democracy-ish.

I am your host, Danielle Moody, with guest host, author of the new book.

Go back to where you came from and Daily Beast columnist

Wajahat Ali back with us again. Good day, my friend. Good day, good day. Hooray, back again.

You like me. You really like me. I love you. I really love you because I tell you all the time,

you make me feel less crazy, right? I, you know, I don't know about you, Washington. Before we jump into America being on trial, you know, how do you find Twitter these days? Because I, you know, I used to say when people would be like, oh, Twitter is so toxic and this, that, and the other thing, and it's a cesspool.

But as of late, I've actually really been feeling this.

How have you been navigating through Twitter these days with like the vitriol?

I mean, Twitter like social media is often the cesspool of humanity. It brings out our collective

id. And for better or worse, it emboldens like the worst of us because we have like the beauty

of anonymity. And I don't know about you, but whenever I've somehow confronted my trolls in real

life, I found out that like the most meek, like quiet, nice people and like, hi, how's it going?

And like someone says, hey, you know that person like trolls you all the time.

I'm like, what?

And so I think it does something that that brings out that interval.

You remember the cartoon where it was like the good devil, the bad devil and like the good

angel?

And like Twitter and social media through anonymity brings out like the worst the worst demons of our id and I feel like especially when it comes to the culture war especially when it comes to race and gender it's like a very triggering place because the right wing has a troll factory and an entire ecosystem that literally unleashes

now their own elected officials who parrot these like you know triggering just insensitive

messages around around certain you know tragic events that you would think five years ago

maybe three years ago maybe maybe seven years ago,

enough people of common sense would be, you know, this was wrong.

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