AMERICA'S NORMALIZATION OF CRUELTY
The Marianne Williamson Podcast
Marianne Williamson
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🗓️ 18 August 2025
⏱️ 20 minutes
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Summary
From deporting innocent citizens to criminalizing homelessness, America’s government today is breaking laws and normalizing cruelty. Tens of thousands of America’s unhoused population work part or even full time. Many have children. When homeless encampments are removed and people’s belongings trashed, how are those people to keep their jobs? How are the children to go to school? The level of trauma being inflicted on people is something beyond what any person of conscience should be willing to tolerate.
I asked Jesse Rabinowitz, Campaign and Communications Director at National Homelessness Law Center, to help explain what’s happening and what we can do about it. Please support a bill currently before Congress that would actually help solve the problem. Make calls. Spread the word. Make noise.
Cruelty is evil. We must not give in.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, everybody. We have a moral crisis in this country. I want to start with a quote of Franklin |
| 0:08.3 | Roosevelt's from his second inaugural address in 1937. He said, quote, the test of our progress |
| 0:15.6 | is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much. It is whether we provide enough for those |
| 0:22.2 | who have too little. You can hardly even imagine a president, even if he felt that way today, |
| 0:27.6 | actually saying it, we live in an age where there's not only this obscene glorification and |
| 0:33.3 | exultation of the obscenely wealthy, but even more dangerously, there is this demonization |
| 0:39.3 | of the poor that has taken hold of our national consciousness and is codified by the policies |
| 0:45.6 | of this administration. |
| 0:47.3 | I'm reminded also, of course, of the New Colossus, the brilliant poem by Emma Lazarus on |
| 0:52.8 | the Statue of Liberty, where she said, |
| 0:54.7 | give me your tired, your huddled masses, yearning to breathe free. |
| 0:59.2 | Well, obviously, we may as well just get rid of that poem because we don't mean it anymore |
| 1:03.3 | in terms of immigrants trying to come to the United States, as so many of our own parents |
| 1:07.5 | and grandparents and great-grandparents did. |
| 1:09.6 | But also with what's happening now, |
| 1:12.6 | we're seeing the same kind of cruel treatment, not only against immigrants, but against people |
| 1:16.6 | here in the United States. I heard an interview the other day with Margaret Atwood, and |
| 1:21.6 | she said, apparently, the United States has decided it doesn't need its poor. |
| 1:25.6 | So we have now gotten to the point where we have a president |
| 1:29.7 | who basically is leading the charge against what he considers and what people like him consider |
| 1:35.8 | throwaway people. I live in Washington, D.C. We're seeing what's happening not only with the |
| 1:42.0 | soldiers who are here, you know, as we've been talking about, we have a 30-year low in crime in Washington, D.C. |
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