What's up, guys? Welcome back to the pod. Happy Friday. I hope you're all having a great week. Sorry for my voice. I woke up quite ill, kind of annoying. Today we're going to talk about the America's Next Top Model documentary and Tyra Banks. And I'd be lying if I said I didn't just record 20 minutes and then force Steve to start it again because I was scared I was going to get canceled. Let me be abundantly clear.

I do not condone any of the racism, fat phobia, classism, horrific, horrific assault that was

televised on the America's Next Top Model show at all. And I'm not defending any of their actions.

I simply don't want to spend half an hour being like, wow, that was so bad,

because I feel like that's been done. And on this podcast and in this community, I always want to

push us to think about things from different angles. But I want to be abundantly clear that what

went down on that show was not okay and that it is important that we acknowledge how deeply, deeply damaging it was for the

girls on the show and how their trauma was exploited. So I want to be abundantly clear that that is how

I feel. I just always, like I said, want us to look at things from different angles. A book that I

reference really often is Sophie Gilbert's book, Girl on Girl.

It is essentially a manual for millennial women to understand why we feel the way we do about our bodies

and about how the patriarchy controls essentially all the media we see like even the spice girls who I love so

much they were created by men right so I'm coming at this basically I'm not going to try and bury

the lead I look at everything that happened in the 2000s as a direct result of the patriarchy and about trying to control women and to make

them feel bad about themselves. So I'm never going to sit here and blame a single woman,

aka Tyra, for how we feel about our bodies. I've seen a lot of how it takes like, oh my God,

Tyra Banks is purpose, like the number one reason I have an eating disorder. Unfortunately, I disagree with bodies. I've seen a lot of how it takes like, oh my God, Tyra Banks is purpose, like the

number one reason I have an eating disorder. Unfortunately, I disagree with you. I'm sorry for every

single person who struggles with a disordered eating. And by the way, I think that's pretty much

every millennial woman, but it's not fully Tyra's fault. America's next top model was a symptom.

It's not the disease. Should they take accountability?

Yes. Should they look back and feel sorry for the trauma that they caused women? 100%. But do I think

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