This is an IHeart podcast.

We're doing something different tonight.

You know, you obviously know Jeffrey Tucker, he comes on the show so often.

And every single time Jeffrey Tucker gets done on the show,

have a talk with the producers, and we always say, we should have gone longer. We need to get

him for longer. And so we're going to keep him the whole hour this time. And we're just going to

pick his brain a bit. So joining me now, somebody you know quite well, Jeffrey A. Tucker,

president of the

Brownstone Institute, and he wrote a wonderful book called Spirits of America. I'm going to fill

yourself up with patriotism, remind you where you came from. I would highly recommend it.

Read it to your kids, by the way. Jeffrey, you and I, we connected back during the COVID insanity, and I know what maybe I'm

supposed to move on, but I haven't moved on. I still, I can't understand totally how the land

of the free succumbed the way it did. Can you help me understand what happened? Well, I'm just glad you're

asking the question because everybody else seems to pretend like nothing happened and that nobody

should be shocked by this. Yeah. You know, I'm dealing with crazy reporters all the time now,

demanding to know, you know, how it is that Brownstone

institutes become supposedly so influential. And I always say the same thing. You can't

shut churches all over the world, force everybody at the same home orders, destroy millions

of small businesses, impose travel

restrictions between states, and do it all over the world at the same time, and then follow

that up by the forced injection of an experimental technology that had not been ever tested

for safety and effectiveness, claiming that this is going to end the pandemic

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