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Keeping It Real: Conversations with Jillian Michaels

AMERICA’S CULTURE WAR IS DESCENDING INTO CIVIL WAR w/ BRAD PALUMBO

Keeping It Real: Conversations with Jillian Michaels

Jillian Michaels

Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Nutrition, Education

4.43.5K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2026

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Is America descending from a culture war to a civil war?! Jillian Michaels sits with political journalist and firebrand Brad Palumbo to expose how the unthinkable is being normalized.  How political violence is openly celebrated, how extremist rhetoric is laundered through mainstream media and publicly elected politicians, and how figures with massive platforms are dragging the country toward something far darker than disagreement. We examine moments that should have ended careers—Jennifer Welch celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk—and instead became stepping stones to legitimacy. We dissect how Tucker Carlson reduced U.S. foreign policy to a conspiratorial narrative involving gay marriage and Jewish influence, how Candace Owens and Nick Fuentes stoke dangerous conspiracy theories bringing them from the most toxic corners of the internet the masses.  What follows is already visible: citizens encouraged to view federal law enforcement as tyrants, treated not as civil servants but as Hitler’s secret police. Neighbors are rebranded as enemies.  The scapegoating of minorities etc.  When violence is reframed as resistance, when institutions lose all legitimacy, history tells us exactly where this leads. This episode confronts the question no one wants to ask out loud:Are we sleepwalking toward civil war? Because when truth collapses, moral lines dissolve, and extremism is rewarded instead of confronted, the next phase isn’t debate.It’s conflict. Topics include: political radicalization, normalization of violence, conspiracy laundering, media corruption, delegitimization of institutions, tribalism, algorithmic extremism, and the growing risk of civil unrest in America.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

My guest today is political journalist Brad Palumbo,

0:06.0

and he's built a massive following doing something rare in today's climate,

0:10.0

exposing and attacking extremism on both sides.

0:14.0

The future of politics in this country could be between big government Christian nationalism

0:20.0

and Islamo-socialism, Zohran

0:23.4

Mammdanism.

0:24.6

Now, at a time when America's culture wars are pushing people into rigid tribes,

0:28.6

Brad has focused on fighting bad ideas instead of defending teams and warning about what happens when we stop doing that. Not that far away down this

0:39.7

path, civil war and open unrest in the streets lies. People decide that we can settle our differences

0:45.3

with bullets instead of ballots. We are heading to a very, very dark place. We see it everywhere from

0:52.0

radicalized wine moms like Jennifer Welsh who celebrate violence.

0:56.0

So listen up Democratic establishment.

1:00.0

You can either jump on board with this shit or we're coming after you in the same way that we come after Magin to alt-right racists.

1:09.0

Jews are running society. Women need to shut the fuck up.

1:12.6

Blacks need to be imprisoned for the most part.

1:15.6

Who avoid condemnation under the guise of free speech, when really their moral compass points only to the next clip.

1:22.6

And the consequences of this unchecked extremism are already here.

1:26.6

We're seeing the dehumanization of neighbors, political violence rationalized as to justice,

1:32.2

and a complete collapse of shared truth.

1:35.7

We're so far beyond right versus left.

1:37.6

We've arrived at good versus evil and how we pull ourselves back

1:41.2

before tribalism does lasting damage is critical.

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