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I don't think that people understood not even this administration understood the catastrophic

damage that had been done over the last four years.

Welcome to In the Thick, a podcast about politics, race and culture.

I'm Julio Ricardo Varela, solo hosting today.

Maria is out and I am so excited because I have these two fabulous guests from Brooklyn, New York,

is Danielle Moody, host of the show, woke AF and co-host of the podcast, Democracy Ish.

It's up Danielle, welcome back.

Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for having me.

I know and from Washington DC is the fabulous Natalie Papthiste, opinion writer with the

half-post. Welcome back Natalie, like a opinion writer, like now you get paid for takes.

I love it. They pay me for my takes honestly.

I'm living the dream so glad to be back to you.

It's so good. So listen, before we get to the conversation, just a reminder to our listeners

that we're still recording remotely. So you may hear some background noise.

So anyway, we're going to get into President Joe Biden's first year in office and from an ongoing

global pandemic to literally no movement at all on immigration reform, to bipartisan blocks on

legislation like voting rights, there's so much to unpack. But we first want to start with a

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