meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Make Me Smart

America is in a situationship with industrial policy

Make Me Smart

Marketplace

News, Business

4.6 • 5.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 February 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

It’s Valentine’s Day, so we’re digging into the thing that’s at the heart of President Biden’s vision to reshape the American economy: industrial policy.

After the U.S. ghosted industrial policy decades ago, it’s become a hot topic again. Biden championed the Inflation Reduction Act, ballyhooed the CHIPS and Science Act and announced rules requiring federal infrastructure projects to use only American-made materials — all with the goal of spurring the country’s manufacturing industries. But, is Biden’s vision for the U.S. economy a perfect match?

On the show today: Derek Thompson, staff writer at The Atlantic and host of The Ringer’s “Plain English” podcast, makes us smart about the evolution of industrial policy in the U.S. and why Biden’s “Buy American” is a great political slogan, but not a perfect policy in practice.

In the News Fix, we’ll discuss the economic costs of romantic scams, Donald Trump’s first official challenger in the Republican presidential primary and unionization efforts at Tesla.

Later, we’ll hear from a listener on giving preloved items a second chance. And, a professional matchmaker tells us how to be smart about finding a partner.

Here’s everything we talked about today:

What’s something you’ve been wrong about lately? We want to hear your answer to the Make Me Smart question! Leave us a voice message at 508-U-B-SMART, and your submission may be featured in a future episode.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Parents and guardians, listen up, million bazillion, the podcast about money for kids and their

0:05.8

families is back. Hosted by Marketplace's Bridget Bondr and Ryan Perez, helping dollars

0:11.2

make more sense. Million bazillion is presented in partnership with Greenlight, the kids and

0:16.3

teens' money app with investing. Listen to episodes in your favorite podcast app.

0:21.9

Whether your dog is in their puppy adult or senior years, there's nothing better than

0:28.9

more years together. And the best way to feed their happy healthy life is with fresh healthy

0:33.7

food. The farmer's dog makes it easy to keep your best friend healthy inside and out,

0:38.7

with fresh recipes made from real meat and veggies. Their pre-portion just for your

0:42.6

pup and delivered right to your door. Help your dog live a healthy life and get 50% off

0:47.6

your first box of real fresh food at thefarmerestog.com slash LifeStages23.

0:53.3

Hey everybody, I'm Kyle Rizzo, welcome back to Make Me Smart. We're none of us. Is this

1:02.1

Martin Zalves? And I'm Kimberly Adams. Thank you for joining us on a deep dive Tuesday

1:08.0

and Valentine's Day, happy Valentine's Day to all. Today we are going to dig into the

1:14.0

not-so-romantic topic of industrial policy, although I guess it depends on how you do that.

1:19.2

People out there might be just the perfect thing. Yeah, get your heart thumping. Because

1:25.8

it does kind of seem like it's all the rage right now with the passage of the Inflation

1:31.0

Reduction Act, the Chips Act, and of course the infrastructure law, which is a law. I still

1:38.6

can't believe it. Anyway, just take a listen to this part of President Biden's state of

1:43.4

the Union speech. Tonight I'm announcing new standards required all construction materials

1:49.6

using federal infrastructure projects to be made in America. Great political applause

1:58.1

line, but is it all that? We're going to talk about industrial policy today with Derek

2:02.0

Thompson. He's a staff writer at the Atlantic, also the host of the ringer's Plain English

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Marketplace, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Marketplace and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.