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Show many moons ago and still does every Thursday evening if you're not familiar check out John bachelor's fabulous podcast and we have again in studio friend of mine he he he was recognized by that music because he's a former cavalry officer now director of the west minster institute in his twenty five years of government service Robert Riley has served a special assistant to the president.

A very special president and as director of the voice of America also senior advisor for information strategy to the secretary of defense and taught I guess that makes a kind of colleague of mine because we both thought at the national defense university

Bob Riley welcome back to America first so thank you it's a great pleasure to be with you again well it is always so much fun we could just talk for hours and hours we have a special reason today not just because of the day that we are celebrating but also because of your latest work let me just regale our list is if you're not familiar with Bob's works they are they include the following making gay okay how rationalizing homosexual behavior is changing everything.

Surprised by beauty a listeners guy to the recovery of modern music and the one that I made compulsory reading on my courses both at the institute of world politics and national defense university the closing of the Muslim mind how intellectual suicide created the modern islamist crisis your brand new book and I know it's a good book because my wife refused to give it to me for the last three weeks I had to wrench it from her hands for this interview

is America on trial a defense of the founding beautifully produced book I mean Ignatius press I mean the production values of the book of fabulous and of course you have a forward from none other than the president of Hillsdale college Larry P.

on we could dedicate hours to this book we have an hour with you let's let's crack on it's let's start right at the beginning your book America on trial is a response to actually I think they're both Catholics a couple of Catholic scholars one I know who's at Notre Dame who says who have written extensively on the idea that

quote unquote there's some kind of poison pill in the founding of this republic the United States it's the poison pill of of enlightenment values and that's why America was doomed to eventual decline your book Robert is a is a response to that thesis am I correct it is I choose to thinkers specifically just to use illustrations of this particular

line of thought it's not unique to them it's not new to them this has been said before about the United States that we had a faulty founding that the founding was the original sin of America and why because it contained radical principles of the enlightenment of individual autonomy and the only reason why we didn't end up in total moral disorder sooner is there

was still a Christian religious grip on society as that grip has loosened low and behold we are now reaping the fruits of this time release poison pill so there was a ticking time bomb inside our republic and it we were condemned to eventually declined because of these hidden values right the founding did this to us so as I say this isn't a new thesis but why is it receiving so much attention now

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