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This is America first and here's your host doctor, Sebastian Gorka.

When was it? Was it a week ago?

I think it was last week, second half of last week, when I read that little presidential poem

about the man in the arena and what it takes and what it means to step into the arena

and now and how those who haven't, well they're just in a different category.

We're going to talk to somebody who's been in the arena more than once. He is, of course,

former congressman for the 11th district of North Carolina. He calls it Western North Carolina

and after that, chief of staff to the 45th president of the United States. Such a pleasure to

have him with us. So our millions of listeners and viewers can hear what he's up to right now.

He is, of course, Mark Meadows. Mark, welcome on to America first.

It's great to be with you, Sebastian and with all your listeners and certainly

continuing to promote the America first agenda. So thank you for being a voice that continues to

demand what America it specs and that's putting America first.

Thank you kindly. There's a reason we didn't call this the Sebastian Gorka show.

That's what everybody else does. It's America first because that's what matters. Okay, Mark,

I got to ask you a serious question now. So I was in there. I was one of the OG guys.

I was on the Trump transition team. I advised candidate Trump during the GOP debates.

And then I went in as his deputy as his strategist. And in the early days, we had a very thin bench

and there were some bad guys in the building, including John Kelly, who really sabotaged the

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