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Today, Explained

America First (unless Iran...)

Today, Explained

Vox

Daily News, Politics, News

4.49.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 June 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Vox's Josh Keating and author Vali Nasr explain what bombing Iran won’t accomplish. This episode was produced by Peter Balonon-Rosen and Hady Mawajdeh, edited by Miranda Kennedy, fact checked by Laura Bullard and Denise Guerra, engineered by Andrea Kristinsdottir and Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram. Further reading: Iran's Grand Strategy: A Political History by Vali Nasr. Listen to Today, Explained ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast. Iranians protesting US attacks on nuclear sites in Iran. Photo by Getty Images. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This weekend, the current president of the United States did something no former president of the United States has ever done.

0:07.0

He bombed Iran.

0:08.0

And I want to just thank everybody and in particular, God.

0:13.0

For a lot of people, it was giving Timu George W. Bush, but the vice president had a counter argument.

0:19.0

But the difference is that back then, we had dumb presidents,

0:23.4

and now we have a president who actually knows

0:25.5

how to accomplish America's national security objectives.

0:28.2

But are these America's national security objectives?

0:31.2

Because most Americans aren't interested in bombing Iran.

0:35.0

And certainly most Americans don't want a war with Iran, but it sounds

0:39.0

like the president might.

0:41.0

Truth Social. It's not politically correct to use the term regime change, but if the current

0:47.1

Iranian regime is unable to make Iran great again, why wouldn't there be a regime change?

0:54.0

Miga!

0:55.2

Where do we go from here on Today Explained?

0:59.7

I made you think you shrie.

1:02.0

My name is Caden Sinclair.

1:04.0

Some people call us American royalty.

1:06.4

We were liars.

1:07.3

A new series on Prime Video.

1:09.4

We were happy.

1:10.5

We wanted for nothing.

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