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So if you take let's say the thousand year history of the Roman Empire

from the founding of the Republic in 509 DC through to the fall of the empire in the west

which is in the late 400s where in that thousand year history might modern America

find some analogous historical setting.

If it's going to be anywhere, I think it's in this period between the end of their great wars of

conquest and the rise of the Caesars. I'm joined today by Mike Duncan, the creator of the massively popular award-winning

podcast series The History of Rome.

And in 2013, uncicked off his second hugely popular series,

revolutions.

He is on here to discuss the Storm Before the Storm, the beginning of the end of the Roman. the storm the

the beginning of the end of the Roman Republic his new book

Mike thanks for joining me today on my history can beat up your politics

thank you very much for having me your book talks about the period before the fall of the Roman Republic, not often discussed.

The period roughly, you know, a book says 133 to 80 I think you even go a little

bit before that and that's BC. Rome is successful, defeats Carthage, expands

its territory as a republic but then struggles with class divisions

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