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We the People

Amending the Constitution and the Article V Project

We the People

National Constitution Center

History, News Commentary, News

4.6 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, the National Constitution Center launches our Article V Project, a new initiative examining the founders’ vision for Article V and an historical look at the use of the Article V process from 1789 to the present. Project contributors and constitutional law scholars Gerard Magliocca, Sanford Levinson, Michael Rappaport, and Stephen Sachs explore the origins, debates, and ongoing challenges surrounding Article V, as presented in their essays.  Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, moderates. This conversation was originally streamed live as part of the NCC’s America’s Town Hall program series on December 3, 2025. The Article V Project was made possible with the support of Democracy Restated.  Resources  Article V: Amending the Constitution  Gerard Magliocca, Report: Article V Constitutional Conventions  Sanford Levinson, Reflections on the Possibility of a New Constitutional Convention  Michael B. Rappaport, The Convention Method for Proposing Amendments: Essential, Misunderstood, and Broken  Stephen E. Sachs, Restoring Conventions, One Amendment at a Time  Stay Connected and Learn More Questions or comments about the show? Email us at [email protected] Continue the conversation by following us on social media @ConstitutionCtr Explore the America at 250 Civic Toolkit Explore Pursuit: The Founders’ Guide to Happiness Sign up to receive Constitution Weekly, our email roundup of constitutional news and debate Follow, rate, and review wherever you listen Join us for an upcoming live program or watch recordings on YouTube Support our important work:   ⁠⁠Donate

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0:00.0

This week, we're launching the Article 5 project, a new initiative exploring the history and future of Article 5 of the Constitution, which sets out the constitutional amendment process.

0:13.0

Hello, friends. I'm Jeffrey Rosen, President and CEO of the National Constitution Center, and welcome to We the People, a weekly show of constitutional debate.

0:22.3

The National Constitution Center is a nonpartisan nonprofit chartered by Congress who increase

0:27.4

awareness and understanding of the Constitution among the American people.

0:31.6

In this episode, we explore the use of the Article 5 process from 1789 to the present,

0:38.3

project contributors and constitutional law scholars Gerard Magliocca, Sanford Levinson,

0:43.3

Michael Rappaport, and Stephen Sacks

0:45.3

explore the origins, debates, and ongoing challenges surrounding Article 5,

0:49.3

as presented in their new essays.

0:52.3

This conversation was originally streamed live as part of the NCC's America's Town Hall program series on December 3rd, 2025.

1:00.0

The Article 5 project was made possible by Democracy Restated.

1:05.0

Welcome, Professors Meglioka, Levinson, Rappaport, and Sacks. It's an honor to convene you.

1:13.8

And Gerard, we're going to begin with you.

1:16.3

You wrote the lead report for the Article 5 project.

1:19.5

You provided a detailed account of the history and tradition of constitutional conventions.

1:25.3

And you say that many unanswered questions about how a second national convention

1:30.6

would be organized have caused federal officials to be terrified at the prospect of a national

1:36.3

convention. In particular, the question of whether the proposed power of a national

1:42.2

convention can be limited.

1:44.8

Tell us about how you concluded that that was a central question

1:48.9

and whether or not you believe that a convention can be limited.

1:53.2

Well, thank you, Jeff, and thank you to everyone listening.

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