My guest today on Pods Day of the World is Ambassador Susan Rice. Susan served as President

Obama's National Security Advisor from 2013 to 2017. Before that she served as a U.S. Ambassador

to the United Nations. She's an Africa expert served on the National Security Council

and is Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs during the Clinton Administration.

Susan, thank you so much for being on Pods Day of the World. You're the highest ranking

official UNE-Demicic down to the highest ranking officials to be on the show, which either

speaks well of New York or poorly of you. It's great to be with you Tommy. Thank you very

much. Okay, I'm going to start by getting a little personal. I'm going to get a little

Barbara Walters on here. When I left the White House it was tough adjusting to normal life.

You know, Chuck Todd wasn't calling every day on this each other. I did have to go to meetings

in the sit room. No more debt fees committees. That was kind of sweet actually. The sit room

stuff sent me updates. I didn't have intelligence every morning in my little sit room. Covey,

I can't even imagine what it was like. It was infinitely more jarring for you who got

the PDB every morning and breathed the president every day and had the weight of the world's

problems on your shoulders. How's that adjustment? It's actually great. It, look, you know,

I know people are surprised to hear this, but it really wasn't that difficult a switch

for me. I think that's largely because I did it once before. Right. During, when the

Clinton administration ended, I'd been in it for eight years. I ended as Assistant Secretary

State for African Affairs, which was obviously not as intense as being National Security Advisor,

but it was a pretty serious job. I had the experience of going from 60 to zero in that

context. That was jarring. Little things like I didn't even have my own cell phone. I

had to get an email account. I hadn't done that. I mean, it was mind you, this is, you know,

...