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We are joined today by a friend of mine who's had to me a fascinating life,

a really diverse series of jobs from running a law firm to being the country's top hostage

negotiator, his most recent job.

He was a national security adviser for a president for a commander in chief.

His name is Robert O'Brien. He's a wonderful person. A lot of fun. Good person.

But he's also the perfect person to take a survey of the world with.

Ambassador, welcome. Thank you for joining us today.

Congressman, thanks for having me on. It's always a pleasure to be with you.

All right, I got to do this because always do it no matter how famous, no matter what my guess is,

tell us about a young Robert O'Brien growing up. What were you like? What did you,

what was your family like? What did you think you wanted to be? Tell us about a young Robert O'Brien.

I'm a small town in California, an agricultural town called Santa Rosa.

But now in a half-month of San Francisco,

wine country now is a little she-sheep, but when I was there was really a real egg town.

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