Ambassador Of The Heart with Isaiah Saxon & Jane Goodall

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🗓️ 23 April 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Topics covered include: Jane Goodall as Isaiah’s lifelong Patron Saint, a very cheap edition of Tarzan of the Apes that changed a young Jane’s entire world, supportive mothers,The Legend of Ochi as a critique of anthropocentrism, Jane’s first experience watching one of the famed Gombe chimps David Greybeard use a tool for the first time, stewardship versus dominion, controversy around Jane’s first National Geographic cover, using empathy in the scientific method, the importance of anecdotes, inventing a fictional primate for the Ochi, filmmaking’s parallels to science, the possibilities of nonverbal communication between man and animal, a quest to understand if adult male chimps like rock and roll music, the size of a dog’s heart knowing no bounds, Jane experiencing the effects of USAID defunding, a shared determination to heal the world by reaching hearts and enacting change, and the aquatic ape hypothesis.

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0:00.0	Hey and welcome back to the A24 podcast.
0:08.0	For today's episode, The Legend of Ochi filmmaker Isaiah Saxon joins his hero Jane Goodall
0:13.5	for a truly enlightening conversation spanning aquatic ape theories, the deep connections between humans and animals,
0:20.0	the primates that inspired Isaiah's very own Ochi, and Jane's lifelong mission to save the Earth.
0:25.6	We hope you enjoy and don't miss The Legend of Ochi in theaters nationwide this Friday.
0:31.1	Hello, this is Jane Goodall.
0:33.3	And this is Isaiah Saxon, and today we're talking on the A24 podcast.
0:38.3	Hi, Jane.
0:39.2	Hello, finally.
0:40.9	Yeah, it's so nice to meet you.
0:42.6	Good to meet you, too.
0:43.8	You know, Gene, I grew up in California in the 80s and 90s, and in my household, there were
0:49.3	sort of three agreed-upon patron saints that we all held up as examples of our values and it was the
0:56.1	Dalai Lama, the Beatles, and you. You've just been this kind of guiding light in my world and
1:01.5	you've certainly been a massive inspiration on the legend of Ochi. I'm just really excited to talk to you
1:07.7	and it's such a privilege. So thanksane so i just i first wanted to talk
1:11.5	about the connections between the film and your story so in the film we see this young girl
1:17.5	named yury and she forms this deep relationship with a fictional primate and before she meets the
1:23.6	animal you know she feels stuck and disconnected and she's in a man's world with no place for her.
1:29.2	So this encounter she has with this animal, it becomes an invitation to like a different way of
1:34.9	relating. And it's a direct and emotional and intuitive way of relating that she's not getting
1:40.1	from the people around her. And it gives her confidence to like act on instinct and like move in the
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