Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Monews podcast. I'm Moshe Wannunu. Have a special episode

for you today. As many of you know, I'm a big history buff, including business history.

And today's episode dives into one of the most compelling rivalries of recent history. And today,

Amazon versus Walmart. Jason Delray is a business journalist whose documented the company is for

more than a decade now. He has a new book out called Winner Cells All. It recounts the business

battles between within these huge companies and how they have looked to basically take over America

and the world. How Amazon became ubiquitous. Walmart trying to figure out the internet,

initially ignoring Amazon as this cute little company. And then realizing, whoa, they need

business. I would bet that no one listening today hasn't shopped at one or the other. Probably

both we talk about that. The impact on small business and the American consumer in this podcast.

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Jason Del Rey congrats on the new book. Appreciate you joining us today.

Thanks and thanks so much for having me. So you've covered both Amazon and Walmart for the last

decade. You spent a couple of years now. I think you told me three years writing this book,

interviewing more than 150 people to give us a sense of two of the big cajonas in American commerce.

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