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Axios Re:Cap

Amazon Raises the Temperature on Trump

Axios Re:Cap

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4.5705 Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2020

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Amazon is seeking to depose President Trump and Defense Secretary Mark Esper in the latest escalation of a suit attempting to prove “unmistakable bias” in the Pentagon’s decision to award a $10 billion contract to Microsoft over Amazon Web Services. Dan discusses the case with NPR business correspondent Alina Selyukh.   PLUS: Mobile’s megamerger gets court approval and AOC gets a challenger.

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0:00.0

Welcome back to this proerotic, where we take just 10 minutes to get you smarter

0:09.9

on the collision of tech, business, and politics. I'm Jemper Mack. On today's show, Mobile's

0:14.4

mega merger gets court approval and AOC gets a challenger. But first, Amazon raises the temperature

0:20.5

on Trump. So you might remember

0:22.5

that the Pentagon last October awarded a massive $10 billion cloud computing contract to Microsoft,

0:28.8

even though almost everyone had expected it would be awarded to Amazon. This is the so-called

0:33.1

Jedi contract, and Amazon was none too pleased to lose, particularly after a speechwriter

0:38.4

for former defense secretary Jim Mattis wrote in a book that Trump had ordered Mattis to

0:42.9

quote, screw Amazon on the deal. So one month after the DOD decision, Amazon filed a protest in

0:49.0

the U.S. Court of Federal Claims. Then one month after that, Amazon made public a complaint alleging that Trump's

0:55.6

private and public attacks on Amazon helped lead to the DOD decision, with Amazon requesting

1:01.2

a reevaluation of the proposals. In short, the company argued that Trump was using the DOD

1:06.1

budget, quote, for his personal and political ends. Now, fast forward to yesterday when we all got to

1:11.9

see a redacted public motion to depose Trump and current DOD secretary Mark Esper, the guy who

1:17.6

was in place when the final decision on Jedi was made. Amazon basically wants to question Trump

1:22.1

about his communications with Esper, to learn more about Mattis's departure, and to uncover

1:27.0

any communications between the White House and DOD with Microsoft, to learn more about Mattis's departure, and to uncover any communications

1:28.0

between the White House and DoD with Microsoft, Oracle, and other big tech companies.

1:33.3

All of this is a bit reminiscent of AT&T complaining about Trump interference in its takeover

1:37.1

of Time Warner, which the Justice Department challenged but eventually lost.

1:41.3

The difference on that case is that the judge never allowed questions about

1:44.4

Trump's influence, saying it was tangential. This time, though, Amazon is arguing that that

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