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Amazon blocks North Korean IT applicants

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News, Business

4.51.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

From the BBC World Service: Tech giant Amazon says it's blocked more than 1,800 North Koreans from trying to join the company in the past two years. Amazon's chief security officer said North Koreans often try to get hired, then send wages back to fund their government's weapons programs. Plus, "oshikatsu" is a Japanese term referring to fervent fan subcultures surrounding things like sports teams, pop stars, or anime — and it's helped pull Japanese retail sales out of a slump.

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0:00.0

Amazon tells North Koreans, you have no career here. In the UK, this is the Marketplace Morning

0:07.9

Report from the BBC World Service. I'm Gideon Long. Good morning. The tech giant Amazon says

0:13.6

it's blocked more than 1,800 North Koreans from trying to join the company in the past two years.

0:19.0

Amazon's chief security officer said North Koreans

0:21.5

often try to get hired and then send wages back to fund their government's weapons programs.

0:27.0

The BBC's Surinjana Tuari has the details from Singapore. Hi, Surinjana. Hi there. Tell us more,

0:32.9

Surinjana. Yeah, this has come from Amazon's chief security officer, Stephen Schmidt, who wrote it in a LinkedIn post.

0:39.9

And he basically said that the US technology giant has seen an upsurge in the number of job applications from suspected North Korean agents.

0:50.5

Now, they were trying to apply for remote working IT jobs using stolen or fake identities.

0:59.2

And apparently their objective is typically straightforward to get hired, to get paid,

1:04.9

and funnel wages back to fund the regime's weapons programs. That's according to Stephen Schmidt.

1:12.0

Now, he added that this is actually likely to be happening, not just in Amazon,

1:16.5

but at scale across the industry, especially in the United States.

1:20.8

And the way that it works is they rely on something called laptop farms,

1:25.6

which is basically working with people who are using computers

1:30.7

based in the US, but are run remotely from outside of the country.

1:35.5

Right. And how common is this then? And are other tech companies worried, given what Amazon

1:40.4

has been saying? Yeah, well, Mr Schmidt has sounded the alarm. He's shown a spotlight on

1:45.5

Amazon's issue and said it is prevalent across the tech industry, probably. There have been a few

1:50.9

cases that show that this is happening. In June, for example, the US government said it had

1:56.5

uncovered 29 laptop firms that were being operated illegally across the country by North Korean

2:02.8

IT workers. And they also used stolen or forged identities of Americans to help these North Korean

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