Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of Getting Hammered.

I am your host, Mary Catherine Hamm.

We're doing something a little different today.

I have my friend, Charlotte Spearing, on this show.

He's going to talk to us about his book. He is a reporter for the Daily Mail from Wyoming, beautiful Wyoming,

originally. He has a bunch of kids, so we love that. And he's written maybe one of the most

fortuitously well-timed books of the year, Amateur Hour, Kamala Harris in the White House,

which came out a couple months ago.

And frankly, I've been meaning to talk to Charlie about this book.

And now seems like a really good time.

Welcome Charlie Spearing to the show.

Thanks so much for having me.

Yeah, as I've been explaining, it's almost like a second

book tour. Another run. We did a big round of media in January where I, you know, went on the shows

and said, hey, it's important to know about this person. She could very well be the 47th president

of the United States. Seemed a little bit of a, you know, a little bit of a bet at the time.

Right.

But now it's everything I predicted in the book, especially in the introduction, is starting to

come true.

And it's kind of surreal.

I have to read a little bit from the introduction because I cracked the book and was like,

well, well done, Charlie.

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