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Amanpour: Steve Leifman, Norm Orstein, Amma Asante and Charles Stewart

Amanpour

CNN

News

4.2929 Ratings

🗓️ 27 July 2020

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Judge Steve Leifman and political scientist Norm Ornstein, the men behind PBS documentary “The Definition of Insanity”, join Christiane Amanpour to discuss Miami-Dade County’s ground-breaking Jail Diversion Program that uses empathy to decriminalize the mentally ill. Then director Amma Asante reflects on making new series "Mrs. America" that examines the controversial 1970s anti-feminist Phyllis Schlafly. She also reveals her experience as a part of the 1% of black and female British directors. And as the November election draws ever closer and many states are expanding the use of postal voting in an effort to keep people safe amid the pandemic, our Hari Sreenivasan talks to Charles Stewart, professor of political science at MIT, about why this has become so politically charged. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to Ammanpur. Here's what's coming up. As protests

0:11.2

continue to shape the United States, the entire justice system is on trial.

0:16.0

We talk to a trailblazing judge about how jails are being filled by criminalizing the mentally ill.

0:22.0

And... by criminalizing the mentally ill and we need to demand true equality.

0:26.0

We are here to move history forward.

0:29.0

Mrs America, I speak to a director of that new series, Emma Asante, about the 1970s Women's Liberation Movement,

0:37.0

then.

0:38.0

That's one of the things I'm concerned about this November

0:41.0

is that some of the states they're seeing the big surges in

0:44.5

vote by mail also have traditions that rejecting a lot of mail-downs.

0:49.6

MIT election expert Charles Stewart warns our Harry screen of us and states need to start preparing to protect those votes now. Welcome to the program everyone. I'm Christina Wancour working from home in London.

1:16.2

The moral reckoning underway in the United States right now also centers around the

1:21.0

nation as the world's biggest jailer. If its prison population

1:25.1

were a city at almost 2.3 million it would be among the country's 10 largest.

1:30.8

It is not just the awful prospect that one in every three young black men can expect to end up in jail,

1:37.0

but also about 400,000 people with serious mental illnesses find themselves behind bars on any given day in America.

1:46.2

And the entire prison industrial complex favors punishment over rehabilitation.

1:51.4

That is where a trailblazing Miami Judge Stephen Lifeman comes in, with a new program

1:56.1

trying to steer the mentally ill towards treatment instead of jail cells.

2:01.8

It's also the topic of a

2:03.2

new documentary on PBS looking at how to rescue people like this young man

2:07.7

Stephen Berry.

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