Amanpour: Rear Admiral John Kirby, General John Allen, Paul van Zyl, Vincent Warren and Mark Bray

Amanpour

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🗓️ 5 June 2020

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Protests and marches inspired by the death of George Floyd continue across the U.S. and beyond, while in Minneapolis, mourners gather at his memorial service. President Trump has called for tough action against the protesters, encouraging the deployment of active-duty military officers to quell domestic protests. Christiane Amanpour is joined by former U.S. Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, retired Rear Admiral John Kirby and former Commander of U.S. Forces in Afghanistan, General John Allen, to dissect the impact that these domestic deployments are having on military morale, and the role of the military in American democracy. Then, as America wrestles with deep-seated racism and police brutality, what lessons can be learnt from South Africa’s experience after apartheid and the idea of restorative justice? Christiane speaks to former Executive Secretary of the South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission, Paul van Zyl, and Executive Director of the Center for Constitutional Rights, Vincent Warren. And our Michel Martin discusses ANTIFA, the anti-fascist group that President Trump is blaming for this week’s violence, with Mark Bray, lecturer and author of "Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook". To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello everyone and welcome to Ammanpur. Here's what's coming up.
0:08.0	Just remember this country was founded on protest. It is called the American Revolution.
0:18.2	Former President Barack Obama's message to organize and unify. This as President Trump's former
0:24.9	defense chief Jim Mattis calls him the most divisive president in my lifetime.
0:29.8	I ask top military leaders now retired who does the Pentagon's salute a president or the Constitution and at what cost plus
0:38.0	We take this opportunity to salute the brave and here only people of Southern Africa for their valiant and
0:46.6	consistent stand against a party tyranny. Lessons from South Africa what truth and reconciliation can tell us about reckoning with institutional racism.
0:57.0	The Commission's former Executive Secretary joins us.
1:00.0	And activist and Professor Mark Bray tells our Michelle Martin about the Antifa movement
1:06.2	and why the president's obsession is a distraction. The Welcome to the program everyone. I'm Christina Manpore working from home in
1:28.7	London. George Floyd's death unarmed and begging for his life,
1:33.4	has inspired a national movement for justice
1:35.9	in the United States with support around the world.
1:39.4	And as protests and marches continue across the country, today is a day to mourn his killing
1:44.8	and also to celebrate his life with a memorial in Minneapolis which is the first
1:49.7	of many to come. But while the street calls for accountability President Trump continues
1:55.2	to call for a tough response to the protest, prompting retired Admiral and former
2:00.6	NATO commander James Stavridis to warn that we cannot afford to have a future
2:05.8	Lafayette Square end up looking like Tiananmen Square which is a reference to China's
2:11.2	deadly crackdown on democracy protesters exactly 31 years ago.
2:16.8	And piling on with former top brass condemning the Commander-in-Chief, Trump's own defense Secretary
2:22.4	Jim Mattis, who resigned in 2018 over the President's
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