Amanpour: Mark Esper, Tom Mueller, Richard Stengel

Amanpour

CNN

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4.1 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2019

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Mark Esper, U.S. Secretary of Defense, joins Christiane Amanpour in Saudi Arabia to defend the U.S. government's decision to withdraw troops from Northern Syria, paving the way for Turkey's invasion of the Kurdish held region. Our Michel Martin sits down with Tom Mueller, author of "Crisis of Conscience", to unpack why whistleblowing is ultimately about American values. Walter Isaacson speaks to Richard Stengel, former Under Secretary of State under Obama and author of "Information Wars", to discuss his experience of fake news during Russia's invasion of Crimea.To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello everyone and welcome to Ammanpur. Here's what's coming up.
0:07.0	We didn't sign up to fight a war to defend the Kurds against the longstanding NATO ally and we certainly didn't sign up to
0:14.3	help them establish an autonomous Kurdish state.
0:17.1	Christian? How are you?
0:18.1	Fine, good to see again.
0:19.1	See you again.
0:20.1	My exclusive interview with US Defense Secretary Mark Esper demonstrating new
0:24.0	forces here in Saudi Arabia designed to confront Iran while also coping with
0:29.2	territory the US has ceded to Iran in Syria and the people inside those organizations realize I'm the last line of defense.
0:37.0	If I don't stand up and say something, no one will ever know.
0:40.0	In an age of whistleblowers, author Tom Muller discusses their crucial work and the retribution
0:46.5	they face.
0:47.5	Plus, this rise of strong men and authoritarians is also accompanied by sophistication of using media and information.
0:55.0	Former State Department official Richard Stengel
0:58.0	on waging war against disinformation. information. Welcome to the program everyone. I'm Christiane Manpur in Riyadh Saudi Arabia
1:17.4	where US Secretary of Defense Mark Esper is visiting the Prince
1:21.0	Sultan Air Base amid the deployment of thousands of new troops,
1:25.3	which is part of the US-S Saudi effort to visibly confront Iran.
1:29.2	And yet, the tumultuous withdrawal of US forces from Syria benefits Iran's regional ambitions
1:36.4	as well as Russia's and it further surments Bashar Assad's grip on Syria.
1:41.6	In the face of widespread and withering criticism the Trump
1:45.1	administration says it could keep a small contingent of US troops in eastern Syria.
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