Hi podcast listeners today I'm talking to the journalist George Packer who's written a book about the life and legacy of the renowned

Legendary diplomat Richard Holbrook

Then the trailblazing theatre producer Kateham, is with me on set.

She's one of the masterminds behind a trilogy of Shakespeare plays with an all-female cast.

And now she's out with a new one, Emilia, about the first female poet to be published in the English

language.

And Harry talks to Paul Irving and Andrew Scott, all about ideas they've come up with to get

the older generation, much older, into meaningful

and good-paying jobs. Enjoy the show. Welcome to the program everyone. I'm Christina Manpur in London. We live in a world of

personality-driven politics these days. Leaders from Donald Trump to Vladimir Putin,

even Angela Merkel to Jacinda Arderon.

They all embody their particular visions for their countries.

Often personality drives diplomacy and foreign policy too.

This week, National Security Advisor John Bolton is in the

spotlight shaping the hard-lined US policy towards Iran, threatening quote,

unrelenting force.

Remember, the big personalities of Cheney and Rumsfeld

marching the United States to war in Iraq,

and big personality is at the center

of hopes for denuclearizing North Korea, but Pyongyang

continues to fire off missiles and projectiles. No one symbolizes the strength

of personality driving US goals for peace more than the

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