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Amanpour: Carol Anderson, Eric Foner, Malcolm Gladwell and Lonnie Bunch

Amanpour

CNN

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2020

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Today is “Juneteenth” in the United States; a holiday that celebrates the emancipation of America’s slaves. Historians Carol Anderson and Eric Foner join Christiane Amanpour to unpack this historic day and the legacy of systemic racism that is still felt today. They explore the patterns of both progress and backlash for black Americans. Malcolm Gladwell, host of "Revisionist History" and author of "Talking to Strangers", discusses police reform and America’s moral shift. Then Walter Isaacson speaks to Lonnie Bunch, the first African American to oversee The Smithsonian Institution and head of the National Museum of African American History and Culture, about the tragic story of 14-year-old Emmett till who was lynched in 1955. He says slavery is embedded in everything and highlights the importance learning from our brutal history. And finally – we mark the graduation of Malala Yousafzai, who despite being targeted by the Taliban 8 years ago, now holds a degree from one of the most prestigious universities in the world.   To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to Amunpur. Here's what's coming up.

0:11.0

This Juneteenth we discuss 155 years since the end of slavery in America with historians

0:19.2

Eric Fona and Carol Anderson.

0:22.1

Then what we should know about the people we don't know,

0:25.0

best-selling author Malcolm Gladwell on why our interactions with strangers often go wrong.

0:31.0

Plus, reimagining America, the Smithsonian's Lonnie Bunch, tells our Walter

0:36.3

Isaacson about the need to catch up on the African American story. Welcome to the program everyone. I'm Christina Manpore working from home in London.

1:00.0

Today America marks Juneteenth. It was on this day in 1865, two and a half years after

1:07.3

President Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation that Union soldiers rode into Galveston, Texas to announce the end of slavery

1:15.8

and that they had been freed. This year the day is particularly meaningful and

1:20.2

fraud as the United States and indeed the world are faced with graphic evidence of the long journey to justice still ahead.

1:28.0

With the killing of George Floyd sparking demands for an end to police brutality and coronavirus devastating America's

1:35.4

black community. Now news that the first Trump administration official has

1:40.1

resigned from her senior post in the State Department to protest, the administration's

1:45.1

response to race and the Black Lives Matter movement.

1:48.9

Incredibly, President Trump had originally planned to hold his first post-Covid political rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, today on Juneteenth.

1:58.0

In 1921, that city was the site of a terrible massacre of hundreds of black residents by their

2:05.1

white neighbors.

2:06.7

Now a massive outcry has forced the rally of the president to be postponed by a day.

2:11.8

And I'm joined now by two distinguished historians,

2:14.9

Carol Anderson, professor of African American studies

2:17.8

at Emory University in Atlanta.

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