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Amanpour: Anna Soubry, Mark Landler, Drew Dixon, Joan Morgan and JR

Amanpour

CNN

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2020

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

As the UK edges closer to 40,000 coronavirus deaths, there is uproar in the country over the behavior of Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s chief political advisor Dominic Cummings, who drove nearly 300 miles across England while the public were being urged not to leave their homes. Mr Cummings stands unapologetic, and with the support of the Prime Minister behind him, is this another example of one rule for the people and one for the elite? Anna Soubry, former UK Health Minister, and Mark Landler, London bureau chief at The New York Times, join Christiane Amanpour to discuss the controversy.  Music producer Drew Dixon and author Joan Morgan talk to Christiane about ‘Off the Record’, an HBO documentary chronicling the allegations of sexual assault made against hip hop mogul Russell Simmons. They reflect on how black women have been treated by the #MeToo movement, and why the film almost didn’t make it to air. And French street artist JR, known for his giant photographs of faces in urban areas, tells our Hari Sreenivasan about how lockdown is inspiring him. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to Ammanpur. Here's what's coming up.

0:07.0

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson bets it all on his top advisor but is he gambling away his

0:14.5

political capital? I asked former Tory health minister Anna Subbury and

0:18.9

New York Times London Bureau Chief Mark Landler. Then, I didn't tell that many people about what happened with

0:25.8

Russell. He just grabbed me. Going on the record allegations in a new documentary that shines a light on how black women are treated in the Me Too movement.

0:37.0

Plus, I think today I play the role in creating a chain of solidarity, creating a chain of hope.

0:43.4

Not just a pretty face.

0:45.2

The supersized artist JR tells our Haris R.

0:48.2

Sri Wrena Vassen why he's more inspired than ever. Welcome to the program everyone. I'm Christina Manpur working from home in London

1:09.5

where the UK's death toll nears 40,000, the highest in Europe.

1:14.5

In March, the government's chief scientific advisor said

1:17.9

that keeping deaths below 20,000 would be a good outcome.

1:22.3

Government missteps have now come into sharp focus this week

1:26.0

in the form of Dominic Cummings,

1:28.0

Boris Johnson's chief advisor,

1:30.0

Maine Brexit strategist, architect of his election victory, and some say

1:34.9

Svengali. He admits to driving nearly 300 miles to his family's farm while the

1:40.4

UK government, which he advises, was telling the public to sacrifice and stay at home.

1:46.1

In a press conference at number 10, on Monday, after days of derisory headlines, Cummings refused to apologize. to what I did as I said I think reasonable people may well disagree about how I

2:06.1

thought about what to do in in the in the in the circumstances but I think that I think that what I did was actually reasonable in these in these circumstances.

2:20.0

Not so fast when Britain's politically polarised newspapers unite against you and

2:25.8

more than a dozen bishops say that you should get the sack, you should know that

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