Amanpour: Ali Soufan, Michael Sandel and Reed Hastings

Amanpour

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🗓️ 11 September 2020

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Former special agent Ali Soufan joins Christiane Amanpour to talk about his now declassified book, "The Black Banners," and how the CIA redacted evidence that torture didn't work. Then renowned philosopher Michael Sandel makes the case against meritocracy, the topic of his new book, “The Tyranny of Merit." He also reflects on the roots of our populist moment. Our Walter Isaacson speaks to Netflix CEO Reed Hastings about the secret to his company’s success, which he says lies in their smash-the-conventions culture. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello everyone and welcome to Alampore. Here's what's coming up.
0:07.0	I would bring back waterboarding and I'd bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding.
0:14.0	The truth and lies of America's torture program
0:18.0	the world learns crucial new details as the CIA finally
0:22.0	declassifies the essential guide, the black banners by an American
0:26.2	hero Ali Sufan.
0:28.3	Then Donald Trump and other figures like him had succeeded by tapping a wellspring of anxiety, frustrations, and legitimate
0:37.8	grievances.
0:38.8	Rockstar philosopher Michael Sandel exposes the dark side of meritocracy and the resentment at the heart of
0:45.4	that populist way.
0:47.4	And we were an emerging threat.
0:50.5	They definitely didn't see that.
0:52.4	Our Walter Isaacson speaks with Netflix co-founder Reed Hastings
0:56.0	about how the Upstart streaming service is eating Hollywood's lunch. Welcome to the program everyone. I'm Christina Manpur in London. The ongoing
1:19.4	struggle between the White House and the intelligence community threatens to hamstring America's
1:24.8	security on key issues from foreign election interference to the rise of violent white nationalism. But the conflict began well before Donald Trump's
1:35.3	presidency. Indeed it traces back to the George W Bush administration with the
1:40.8	politicization of intelligence in the buildup to the Iraq war
1:44.6	and the issue of torture and other prohibited practices after 9-11.
1:49.2	Former FBI agent Ali Sufan notoriously showed up the torturers using legal interrogation
1:55.9	techniques to uncover crucial facts including who was the mastermind of the September 11
2:02.2	attacks. He says quite simply the mastermind
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