I won't tell you that it's gonna be okay.

I won't tell you that it's going to be okay.

Welcome to another episode of McCarthy Sellers podcast.

Today we have with us somebody who's going to help us dig in deep on some of the issues of the day but none other than Amanda

Tyler. How are you? I'm great how are you? I'm more blessed than I deserve. You look

comfy. I love your home setting there. It's pretty dope. Thank you. We start each one of our

episodes by having our guest walk us through the arc of their careers and you're

an academic and author and you've been in private practice and at the DOJ.

Can you walk listeners through each of your career stops

after you finished Harvard law?

Well, I actually worked at the Justice Department

before I went to law school, and it confirmed for me that I wanted to be a lawyer because I was surrounded by these extraordinary people doing amazing things in the Clinton administration and a lot of women lawyers in particular.

So they were role models for me and it encouraged me to dream big and go to law school.

After I graduated from law school, I clerked for two years, first on the second

circuit, and then it's my great good fortune I clerked at the Supreme Court for Ruth Bader Ginsburg,

and that too changed my life in many important ways.

She was and remains an inspiration to me

and encouraged me to think and dream big with my career.

I initially went into private practice.

I had hoped to serve in government,

but the election that happened shortly after I finished clerking didn't go the way I'd hoped.

And so I went into private practice and I did a whole range of things, trial work, criminal defense work,

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