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Turkey has argued with justification that the YPG is affiliated with

an offshoot of the PKK, which the United States and the European Union have both designated as a terrorist organization.

So again, from the Turkish perspective, not only are we housing their number one domestic terrorist,

we are also cooperating on their border with their other main terrorist threats,

this affiliate of the PKK.

So from Turkey's perspective, the United States is not being particularly sympathetic to their domestic security concerns.

And so it was a long process of the Obama administration that has continued in the Trump administration

to try and find ways to assuage Turkish concerns about U.S. cooperation with the Syrian Kurds

at the same time that we're trying to prosecute the fight against the Islamic State in Syria.

I'm Benjamin Widis and this is the LawFair podcast July 3rd, 2018.

Recep Tayyip Erdogan won the Turkish elections the other day and becomes the first president under Turkey's new empowered presidentialist system.

His party in coalition with ultra-nationalists will control the parliament as well,

so it's a big, big win for the Turkish president.

It may be a loss for democratic values.

Joining me to talk all things Turkey in the Jungle Studio this week, Amanda Slot,

the Robert Bosch senior fellow at Brookings,

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