Amanda Sloat on Boris Johnson and Brexit
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🗓️ 10 August 2019
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
The United Kingdom has a new Prime Minister. It also has a looming cliff it is careening toward and about to leap off of on Halloween of this year.
This week, Benjamin Wittes sat down with his Brookings colleague Amanda Sloat to talk about all things Brexit. They talked about the new British Prime Minister Boris Johnson (and his hair), and his views on Brexit. They compared him to his American counterpart (and his hair). They talked about the deadlock between Britain and the European Union. And they talked about the way the Brexit debate plays out in American politics.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:55.6 | I think there had been a lot of healthy skepticism about Boris Johnson's election campaign |
| 1:22.9 | pledge to get Brexit done, given that there was the recognition that in many ways the much |
| 1:28.3 | tougher fights now had to happen. |
| 1:31.2 | So in terms of negotiating the divorce, it was fairly clear what the provisions were |
| 1:35.1 | that needed to be agreed, and with the exception of the handling of the Irish border, a lot |
| 1:40.7 | of those were relatively clear. |
| 1:43.4 | But now we are moving on to the much more difficult and the much more contentious fights. |
| 1:48.7 | And what you were already seeing is the EU arguing that it wants to maintain level |
| 1:53.8 | playing field commitments that it wants the UK to agree to continue aligning on a certain |
| 2:00.0 | number of regulations to end up easing trade between the two sides. |
| 2:04.7 | And yet at the same time you have Boris Johnson taking a much tougher stance, suggesting |
| 2:09.5 | that that's not going to be the case. |
| 2:12.0 | And so even though there is some clarity, there is some relief, we are going to be able |
| 2:16.1 | to finalize the divorce within the next couple of weeks. |
| 2:19.3 | I think there is an expectation that 2020 is going to be quite contentious between the |
| 2:24.0 | two sides while they try and hammer out arrangements on what this actually looks like. |
| 2:30.6 | I'm Gordon All and this is The Laugh Air Podcast, December 21st, 2019. |
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