You are listening to the Roberta Glass True Crime Report, putting the true back in true crime.

From New York City, Roberta Glass is now on the record.

Hello, everybody. Good evening. If you found me here, welcome. I wanted to talk a little bit today about propaganda. And I wanted to talk about innocence fraud. And I wanted to talk about these cons being really good.

Meaning, if you've been fooled by one of these documentaries,

it's not because you're so dumb or uninformed.

It's because they are really, really effective.

And one of the things that they do is the way that they use words. The words that they choose are very specific. Something I talked about with Jane from the

National Organization of Victims of Juvenile Murderers. So the movement to get rid of life without parole for juveniles will describe convicted juvenile killers as

justice involved youth.

They'll always say in the wrongful conviction movement,

they were falsely accused, never falsely convicted.

Because obviously, if you say you're falsely convicted,

you don't want anyone to think, hey, this person had a trial.

Maybe the appeals courts have looked this over and affirmed this conviction.

Maybe they're guilty.

This is a movement that never says guilt.

And Amanda Knox was an aspiring writer when she left for Perugia, and she would have been

very familiar with language and the power of language.

So I wanted to listen to this interview she did in 2014 in February for the University of Washington, their media outlet.

So this is journalism students she's talking to.

And I wanted us to bring our own common sense to it.

And something that's interesting, one of the main things that's propagandized people to believe that this was a crime of one person that Amanda and Raff were wrongfully convicted, but Rudy Gude wasn't,

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