Hi, I'm Otto. Welcome to Ellen Sarah's Budcast.

Okay, we have a very wonderful episode of the podcast today with Amanda Clutes.

I just love her. Yep, she's a wonderful person. I'm assuming that if you're listening to this,

you are aware of Amanda, but she became, she sort of came into the spotlight of the whole world

when her husband Nick Cridero got sick with COVID and unfortunately eventually passed away.

She really took us on a journey, her journey, and we sort of discovered COVID through her experience

because it was so we didn't know anything. Yeah. She was just getting obsessed with the story

at the time and just following along because everyone was so confused at the time. And her book

is really fascinating. If you followed this story, you only skimmed the surface when you followed

the story on Amanda's Instagram, but then you read the book. It's so fascinating to understand

the specifics and she really is such a good writer. She wrote it with her sister, Anna,

and they're such great writers. It's a fantastic read and it's an important conversation to listen

to to hear updates on how she's doing, how she handles grief, and if she plans on dating again.

Yeah, I mean, I think we covered a lot. Grief was obviously at the forefront.

Yeah, I just said that. The conversation. Okay. Okay. Enjoy. Enjoy.

Amanda, are you at the talk currently in your dressing room? Is that where you are?

Yes, I am. Yeah, we just wrapped it like 12 and then meetings till 1230. So yeah.

And I usually just stay here and just get work done because, you know, if I go home, it's Elvis.

It's so, I know, Aaron's always, she always says to me like when we're at work or whatever,

like go home. Like go home. Like why are you still here? I'm like, I'm still here because I have

sanity here and peace and quiet. And the second you go home, it's like, you know, the apocalypse.

No chaos. It's true. I take naps here. I do lots that I work out in this room. This dressing room

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