Amanda Goetz, TOXIC GRIT: How to Have It All and (Actually) Love What You Have
Totally Booked with Zibby
Zibby Owens
4.5 • 643 Ratings
🗓️ 13 November 2025
⏱️ 25 minutes
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Totally Booked: LIVE! In this special episode of the podcast (in-person at the Whitby Hotel with a live audience!), Zibby interviews entrepreneur, 2x CEO, author, and single mom Amanda Goetz about TOXIC GRIT: How to Have it All and (Actually) Love What You Have. Amanda opens up about building a high-powered career while raising three kids, navigating divorce, and redefining what it means to “have it all.” She introduces her concept of “character theory,” encouraging women to embrace the many parts of themselves—career-driven, maternal, fun, sensual—and to eliminate guilt by living with intention. She also explains “toxic grit” as hustle without purpose and explains how to create balance over a lifetime rather than in a single day.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, this is Zibi Owens, and you're listening to Totally Booked with Zibby. Formerly, moms don't have time to read books. In my daily show, I interview today's latest, best-selling, buzziest, or underrated authors and story creators, whose work I think is worth your time. As a bookstore owner, publisher, author, and obviously podcaster, I get a comprehensive |
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| 0:40.9 | Zibby Owens. Thank you for coming to Totally Booked Live at the Whitby. We are here today with |
| 0:50.1 | Amanda Gets, who's the author of Toxic Grit, How to Have It All and Actually Love What You Have. Welcome. Thank you for having me. This is amazing. I love it. We just saw each other at Zibbe's Bookshop, which was so great. Thank you for coming there. Oh, my gosh. The community there. It just felt like a family, like everybody knew each other, and it was my first book tour event, |
| 1:12.4 | so it was so fun to meet other authors, so thank you. Oh, you're welcome. It was great to have you. |
| 1:17.3 | Why don't you tell listeners a little bit about what toxic grit is about? Yeah, so I wrote this book. |
| 1:23.1 | I'll share a quick little story that led to the framework inside. But I was leading marketing and I was living |
| 1:30.5 | in New York City, leading marketing at the knot with three young babies at home under the age of four |
| 1:35.5 | going through a divorce. And I came home one night and I remember after I got the two older ones in bed, I was rocking my son. |
| 1:47.0 | And I took out my notes app and I wrote the words, you can have it all. |
| 1:54.5 | I was like, where is the friction coming from? |
| 1:57.4 | And it dawned on me that it wasn't about the all. |
| 2:00.3 | It was about the you because there's so many |
| 2:03.4 | different versions of me inside of me. There's the version of me that wants to kill it at work |
| 2:09.0 | and wants to have an amazing career. Then there's a version of me that just wants to be a mom |
| 2:13.7 | and like let all the work stuff go. Then there's a fun party girl inside of me that wants to go |
| 2:19.9 | have fun and see my friends and travel the world. And so I realized the friction was coming from |
| 2:25.6 | the word or that comes up so often. You're either a girl boss or you're a trad wife. And we keep |
| 2:33.9 | trying to like pull apart and put us in these neat |
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