Welcome to the Eric Mataxis show.

It's the show that answers the questions.

Could you milk a cockroach?

By the way, cockroach milk is really yummy.

Some would even say numbing.

This announcement has been brought to you by the

Cockroach Dairy Council. And now the man who once wrangled cockroaches for a living in Kansas City,

Eric Mattaxas. Hey folks, welcome to the Eric Mattaxas show. I have good news for you. Good news. The good news is

we get to talk about a book. We get to talk with the author of the book. And we get to talk about a book, we get to talk with the author of the book, and we get to talk

about a period in history with which I'm not only somewhat familiar, but very excited, very

enthusiastic. But without going into further detail, why don't I simply say that our guest

today is Amanda Barrett,

whom we've had on the program before. Amanda, welcome back. So good to see you.

Thank you so much, Eric. It's such a joy to be here.

Well, look, you make me very happy because you're writing about things that I care about very, very deeply.

You're writing about them in a fictional way. And

let's explain that because not everybody understands it. There are people that sometimes say to me,

now I write nonfiction biographies and they say, I loved your novel about Bonhoeffer. I love it.

And I sometimes correct them and say, no, no, no, it's not a novel. It's nonfiction. A novel

is fiction. And then there's this thing called historical fiction, which is what you do,

and you've done in your two books, where you write about true events, but you write about them

with some fictional elements. And so your last book we talked about was my dearest

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