The other thing about Vivek, like when he speaks publicly, he speaks very strongly, but I can see him in China sitting across from Xi Jinping and being very confident that he's going to say and do the

right things and he's younger. There's a, you know, I think that the bench needs to be a little bit

younger. Oh, I completely agree with you. A gerontocracy is constantly, that word is swirling

around my mind as we look at the people who are representing us. Just, I'm saying, just a decade younger, please, please.

60s, would be good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The vague would be amazing if we could get something like that done.

Yeah.

Welcome to the Michelle Tofoya podcast.

Excited to have Amla Epinobi back on the podcast today.

By the way, hit subscribe wherever you're listening or watching.

Please make sure you never miss an episode.

Download those.

Amala, you may know her from Prager University, from filling in for Dennis Prager on his show.

You may not know her from that.

You may follow her on X. You may not, but you should. Amel Epinobi is young. She never got a college degree, which I think is in

her favor. She is wise. She is enterprising. And she has gone off on her own. She is an independent

podcaster doing a lot of great things. And she is so

fun to talk to. Once a warrior for the left, she's done a 180 and you'll want to hear why.

She is our guest. She is fascinating. We're going to talk about a ton of stuff in a short amount of

time. It's good bang for your buck. So stay tuned for Amla coming up.

...