Amal Clooney, Geoffrey Robertson and Bill Browder on a Plan B for Human Rights

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🗓️ 13 April 2021

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Geoffrey Robertson QC is one of Britain’s leading human rights champions. Twenty years ago he helped fuel the global justice movement with his groundbreaking book Crimes Against Humanity. In April 2021, alongside fellow human rights lawyer Amal Clooney and campaigner Bill Browder, he took part in a special Intelligence Squared online event in partnership with Doughty Street Chambers to set out what he calls his ‘plan B for human rights’. This would involve countries introducing and enforcing fresh laws to name, blame and shame human rights abusers, stripping them of their right to enter democratic nations, of the ill-gotten funds they seek to deposit in global banks, and barring them and their families from schools and hospitals in these countries. Expanding on the themes of his new book Bad People And How To Be Rid Of Them, Robertson makes the case for a group of laws known as Magnitsky legislation after Sergei Magnitsky, a lawyer who died in a Russian jail after exposing state corruption. To find out more and to buy the book click here: https://bit.ly/3dXhvNn Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/intelligencesquared. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello, I'm Rory Stewart, and I'd like to tell you about an intelligent squared event
0:04.8	I'm doing with the classicist author and broadcaster Mary Beard. Together we'll be discussing
0:10.1	politics and power from the Caesars to Sunack, who gets to Winpar, who is excluded,
0:16.0	does power always corrupt, or other examples of leaders who've maintained their integrity while
0:21.1	an authority. And how does the nature of power vary across different times and cultures?
0:26.0	These are just some of the questions that Mary and I will be trying to answer.
0:29.6	In person tickets are now sold out, but you can still watch online on the 13th of November
0:34.6	at 7pm BST. Put your questions first live as we discuss power and politics down the edges.
0:40.8	Hello podcast listeners, I'm Connor and welcome to this week's episode of Intelligence Squared.
0:45.3	Today we have three leading figures in the fight for human rights. Amal Clooney,
0:49.6	Jeffrey Robertson and Bill Browder discussing how to fight human rights violations in the 21st century,
0:55.7	and expand on the nascent but very effective magnet ski laws that have come into effect in
1:00.5	countries like Britain, America and Canada. It's a really fascinating conversation based on the
1:05.6	themes of Jeffrey Robertson's new book, Bad People and How to Be Rhythm. And if you do enjoy it,
1:10.4	you can find a link for Jeffrey's book in the podcast description. But before we go to this week's
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