Hey everybody, it's Sophia here. So we were in Orlando and had a great time with Mike

Roe. So great, actually, that we couldn't fit all of his amazing interview into our show. So here

for you is the full uncensored interview where Mike talks about everything from his new podcast,

the way I heard it, to what he learned when he was on dirty jobs about job creation and the

skills gap. And to find out more about Mike Roe's foundation, Microw Works, which provides financial

assistance to people who want to learn in-demand job skills, check out his website,

micro.com. And here's the bonus.

So you hosted a show called Dirty Jobs, but I want to talk about your many jobs. You have had

many jobs in your career. For example, I did not know that you

sang for the Baltimore Opera. I did. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't a, it's very polite applause,

tentative, but polite. Back in the 80s, in Baltimore, it was very hard to get into the Screen Actors Guild

and AfterA. But Agma, the union that oversaw the opera, if you could basically fake your

way into that, you could pay your membership in the other unions.

Okay, you can't fake your way into opera.

Sure you can. Sure you can. You can fake your way into opera. Sure you can. Sure you can.

You can fake your way in anything.

I mean, look at us.

That's true.

That is true.

So you're not a trained opera singer, but you audition for the opera because you want this a sag card.

I wanted my sag card.

The only way to get it for me anyway.

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