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After September 12th, I received a number of calls from folks, emails from folks, people

I'd be talking to, and they would say, I didn't realize what turning point was,

or I just knew the name, Charlie Kirk, but I didn't know that much about what he was doing.

And then to a person, they said, but i've gone back and looked at the

youtube videos and this man is doing something amazing it's incredible what he was doing and then they

talk about you know being hopeful that this or that this will launch this organization even bigger

which is of course what Charlie would have wanted.

And I have referred to him as he said that his, he wanted to be remembered as an evangelist.

And that is such a powerful thing, not a political organizer, an evangelist. He was a political organizer.

He was a cultural force, but he was an evangelist, and that's the most important thing.

And as I've said, he was an evangelist on par with Billy Graham, and I mean that.

We have another evangelist with us today.

It's our honor to welcome to the program for the first time.

Turning Point, Pastor Lucas Miles.

Welcome, good sir.

Hey, thanks for having me on. New book, Pagan Threat,

Confronting America's Godless Uprising. I always ask what to say. I always start interviews like this,

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