When we interview a guest on this show, I don't just want someone who's in the news.

I don't believe in the good get where someone because they're famous or they're in the news and look at me, they're talking to me.

I don't find that to be illuminating.

In fact, that's why oftentimes we have as guests the every man, and it might be a shopkeeper in Hoboken.

It might be a person who was a victim of crime and has spoken out and had enough, or someone who's spoken before a school board and said, enough, I'm not a famous person, but you're not doing this to my child, and I'll take on this entire school board.

Well, our next guest is somewhere in between because he has increasingly become a famous person of late by telling his story, and it's a story not of a famous person, but of a real person.

We talk a lot about this transition and transgender issues

and boys who want to become girls and girls who want to become boys. And whether you have folks

enabling, grooming, you have doctors, and now you're seeing what's called a detransition, which is where a boy wants to become a girl or vice versa.

And they begin this process, and all of a sudden, somewhere along the line, they say, wait, that's not what you said was going to happen.

I don't like my body. I don't like my voice. I don't like how I feel. You didn't solve my problem.

You made it worse. And it's particularly troubling when it happens to a young person.

Because now, were they of the age to make such a big decision? You can't, you're not old

enough to smoke, not old enough to get a tattoo because those are potentially permanent.

But you're old enough to change your entire identity.

And yes, sex is a big part of our identity.

Remember when you went to the school dance and they said, boys over here and girls over here, where do you go?

I mean, these are a tough thing.

Which bathroom do you go to?

What do you do at certain times when they say,

boys here, girls here, you get in this line, you get in this line, and you're confused. This is a

tough issue. And it's not going to not be a tough issue. It's always been a tough issue. But the question

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